State of Things: Afghanistan, Historical Anniversaries, and More (2023)

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On the August 29, 2021 edition of State Of Things With Aisha & Jill, the women discussed:

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– Afghanistan
– The recent 58th anniversary of the March on Washington
– The recent 16th anniversary of hurricane Katrina
– Last week was the 20th anniversary of the death of Aaliyah
– The recent 66th anniversary of the murder of Emmett Till
– This episode’s cockroach: Kristi Noem

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whatever milestones that black people
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make against hate
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it ends up benefiting
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all the other people of color i can’t
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see what his endgame is the republican
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party is the party of racism is the
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party of white supremacy is the party of
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hate this is wrong and it needs to stop
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everybody wants to go back and drag that
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piece of history up but they don’t want
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to go back and deal with what their
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ancestors did to the indigenous people
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and to black people in this country
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uh-uh you got to go and you got
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billionaires talking about going to
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space and jeff bezos go
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never come back i hope you get lost this
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man has lost his mind
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come on girlfriend
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usually we do state of things on excuse
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me saturday night but the weather mother
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nature’s in control these days
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so
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chill was having some challenges with
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being too hot in cali aisha too much
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storm so we’re doing it here on sunday
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here but you’re not here to see and
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listen to me these are the people you’re
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hearing wanted to hear and listen to so
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they are here with us as a van halen
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song would say right here right now
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what’s going on ladies jill you are on
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mute
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how we doing ladies good good very good
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i mean it’s not so hot here today so no
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outages everything
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seems like you got to stay on your toes
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in this economy and climate
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this economy this climate this
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everything so are you sure are the
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storms gone away yeah it was just cloudy
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here today no rain and no wind it was
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just cloudy all day
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so it was pretty it was much better it’s
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like the second weekend
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that we’ve had wi-fi outages because of
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the um tropical storm
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last weekend oh god crazy they thought
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it was going to be a hurricane thank god
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it wasn’t
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and you had you and you were having
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power outages outdid in your place of
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the world jail
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yeah i think everybody had their acs on
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like i apparently am
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always in the top percentile of using my
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ac i basically even noticed like you’re
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in the top percentage of people in your
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neighborhood using the most power
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i’m like oh great well i’ll make up for
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it by
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you know uh buying in bulk and you know
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i try to offset my carbon footprint but
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i don’t know this it was it’s been hard
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this year challenging times challenging
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yeah i mean i’ve got my ac up pretty
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high right now it’s 75 degrees outside
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it’s a humid 75.
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well we’ve had inter well where i am
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living we have only had a straddle of
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rain over the last two weeks
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like cows
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cows could make a living on my front
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lawn whoa
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really really really just
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oh my gosh it’s been really bad like
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this summer we had three
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heat waves but this one’s really
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significant has gone on for about two
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weeks are you having droughts
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yeah like for example we’ve had heat
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warnings in the toronto area for the
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last five days so that means 30 degrees
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celsius which is 86 degrees fahrenheit
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plus humidity was pushing it to 40
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degrees cent awful it’s just it’s
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ridiculous like i think we’re going
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crazy from like 93 to 60
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and and then from 70 and then no we
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don’t know
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nighttime temperatures only get down to
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like 75 degrees fahrenheit and then
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there’s humidity that’s it doesn’t go it
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like 60s no
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it doesn’t it just stars were not
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hitting the 60s either it was like if i
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wanted to do any baking i may have had a
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half an hour break at two or three in
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the morning and that’s
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it just kept ramping up i mean
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i think i went in my car and it was a
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hundred and five or hundred and four wow
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yeah i was just like oh
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you know so yeah it was pretty bad
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well let’s let’s
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let’s shout out our family black beauty
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hello
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jen myers hello
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and blue reigns hello everybody
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so we’re loving it i know we’re on a
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different night this week so
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yeah yeah sorry about that hey no
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problem that’s all right that’s all
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right no problem and just fyi for
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everybody next ones like next weekend’s
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a long weekend so we may
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we’ll see what happens let’s just let’s
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see that’s right that’s right next
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weekend is a long weekend because i i am
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probably going to be well maybe i can do
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it i’ll be in the province of quebec in
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montreal
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you know we’ll be able to we should be
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able to do it we should be able to do it
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next weekend from the province of
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quebecois so let’s get down to libya
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hey before we go any further
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um memories of our show last week ask us
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anything any thoughts oh my gosh oh i
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had a good time that was such fun
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i did i actually it was great yeah jen
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myers is a friend of mine and she was
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telling me today
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that um
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she really enjoyed it and the questions
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were really great wonderful they were it
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was really good to get to know everybody
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true you know more yes because folks we
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don’t get a chance to talk like visually
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outside of the show we of course are
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using the back channels of twitter and
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all that stuff but there’s a lot of
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things that i’m sure a lot of people
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things that people didn’t know about me
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that i just shared just openly and i
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just said we’re gonna do well at least
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do that once a quarter folks at least
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once a quarter so i think it’s really
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good and we’re always looking for people
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to come on if you want to join us too
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just saying
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yeah just
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talking you know off line and stuff all
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right i get to really have that kind of
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chat with you
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okay jen is saying yes loved that show
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beautiful thank you thank you thank you
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all right let’s get to some conversation
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topics
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oh
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boy afghanistan
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well i mean we knew we knew it was going
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to devolve into that
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um
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i don’t think that was a surprise
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um unfortunately
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we we just aren’t in any position to
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we’re not in any position really to do
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anything
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other than get out
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it’s it’s like i understand but people
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have for just
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america’s not that country anymore
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it’s not i don’t know
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what else is going on
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without bringing more men in we only had
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2500 men in there since
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trump took them out uh took about what 5
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000 or 7 000 out
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in december of 2020 so that’s not who we
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are
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we’re going through a real a different
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kind of rebranding and you know i had
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told you guys a long time ago that even
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the ambassadors from other countries
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were saying
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america is not going to police the world
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and i also feel that from that comment
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um that was key that
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uh
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of what our allies were thinking
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that they’re not going to just follow us
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blindly
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and oh we got your back since whatever
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those days are gone donald trump ruined
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all of that
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um
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and i really do feel that we’re just in
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a very different time
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uh
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there there’s been a real shift in
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everything and allegiances are not going
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to be based just upon the mere fact of
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your yesterday with somebody it’s not
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yeah
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i mean 20 years it’s a long time to have
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people continue to have faith in you and
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to not see any progress i mean it’s like
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the
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we we’ve been there almost 20 years
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and people are there was no end game
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and a lot of our allies were hoping that
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there would be an end game that we at
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least had that kind of plan and we
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assured them that there would be one and
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that’s part of the problem is that
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we haven’t kept our promises so why
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would we expect our allies to
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really you know
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want to step up and want to be there and
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want to support us in the same way is
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that we’ve we’ve kind of in some ways
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let a lot of people down
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and donald trump made it even worse
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by just doing what he did in terms of
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pulling people out
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um and it was all because of his
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personal
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um
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allegiances with the taliban well
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releasing 5000 taliban people from jail
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basically
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destroyed us in the war the war ended
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then that’s when we lost was when he did
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that you don’t release the people that
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we sent and sacrifice our men and women
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to put them in jail he made life more
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dangerous for everybody living there and
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he also put our men and women at risk
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again this is his fault it’s very simple
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this war is nothing to do right now with
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what’s going on is
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donald trump released 5 000 criminals
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taliban he let him go
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the the this is like that’s where it
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starts it’s like we had been there
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16 years or 17 years by the time he came
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in or whatever and he lets them go
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well that is that is
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it’s like with any gang yeah they re-up
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when you let them go
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they get out of out of jail or out of
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confinement or out of whatever and they
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re-up together and they just have a new
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plan of how to attack but that was part
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of his plan with russia
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that was it
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that was the tip
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and
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they need to keep
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going down the road and investigating
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that man because that was part of it
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just like what he did with the turks
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because when the kurds
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that was another disrupter you can’t see
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somebody doing the same thing a couple
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of times and then it’s like uh you
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suddenly don’t realize this just
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sabotaging me you know that’s what he
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did he was the savage he was the
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saboteur he was there to uh get rid of
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everything and mess up and and invite
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people for a party at that up in uh
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wherever they go and i’m sorry to be so
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rude but
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it’s it’s absolutely
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unacceptable
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and um there’s a special place in hell
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for him because that is what he did and
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when he let 5 000 of them go that was
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when he picked all over every
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soldier
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that we had who lost their lives or
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sacrificed their lives so as far as i’m
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concerned he’s the one who deserves the
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slap if you see him out
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yeah i mean
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it it wasn’t like he did this without
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any kind of planning like he did with
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everything oh he planned it he knew he
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had the power to disrupt it and he knew
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they were going to get the band back
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together he knew it well he knew he knew
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that but without any
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what americans would have considered a
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visible plan of anything he had his side
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plan he had uh that 20 and how many tons
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of gold do we have up there exactly so
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what what really there was a plan to get
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that
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that
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was the ultimate plan i still don’t know
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what the details were but all that
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revolved the schmoozing that come over
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to my house and have a drink
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there never you know he said was such a
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disingenuous person but the reality is
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they want that money they want those
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coins we have them they don’t have them
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so
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uh is that some kind of leverage that we
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are going to have to give them their
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gold back i don’t know
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i mean but they can’t be having folks
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going around blowing themselves up
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because
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that money could just disappear right
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unless i forget this this was the same
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former president who wanted to invite
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the taliban to camp david
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that’s what i’m talking about but where
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i fault joe biden is he still let the
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mike flins of the world run around he
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still let very very dangerous people who
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have deep ties in those
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that’s where i’m on joe biden’s behind
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about because
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um
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any
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yet again when you’re in a street fight
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you don’t you know show up with like
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toothpicks and you know
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whatever you know what i’m saying like
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you have to plan ahead this i mean are
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they just is it a revelation to them i’m
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sitting at home watching this stuff on
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tv and i think i can kind of figure out
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how the game is being played joe biden
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needed to have
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merrick garland who is he dead or
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something because i don’t even know if
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he’s alive anymore
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i don’t know what the hell he’s doing
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because seriously is he dead someone
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please should go check his office
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like i said the last time
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anybody who is not afraid to fight you
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in shower shoes
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you’ve got to know i’m not weird for
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them okay that’s true
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they fight you in flip-flops when your
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people have steel-toed military boots
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and they don’t care right yeah you you
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got to prepare for a different kind of
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game let’s go the audience got luck uh
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green eyed baby
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yes you because i sometimes get
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tongue-tied with all these these handles
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when 45 turned his back on our allies
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the courage oh he the courage he opened
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up the isis floodgates now the taliban
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is more powerful
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also saying 45 ruined the world not just
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america we sure did black beauty the
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ladies are on point and i wish our media
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was putting this out there
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our media is a bunch of wimps and uh he
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had he had an agenda and then black
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beauty is saying and let’s not forget
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we’re in for their for their poppy our
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fur
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far drug cart pharma pharmacy drug
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products
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yeah yeah yeah i mean where do we we we
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have so many resources that we get from
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that particular part of the world
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and we can’t overlook that yeah you’ve
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got novartis you’ve got sanofi
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you’ve got uh merck you’ve got all of
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those who are somehow tied to this we
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did with the poppy that’s very very true
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we got a bunch of them we’ve got how
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many millions now are opium addicted uh
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that’s a big problem we have money that
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went there to help them with these
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situations and it never never went
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anywhere
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um we have a bunch of women now who have
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to go back under cloak and you know
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hopefully you know i don’t know what’s
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going to happen to them but
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if anything
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it was very foolish for anybody to ever
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think that they would instill democracy
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because let’s be honest saudi arabia
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would just have kittens if that ever
16:38
happened anyway because
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they’re the main ones behind talk about
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the biggest backstabbers talk about the
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you know
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serpent’s tongue of a country they’ll be
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whatever you want them to be at the time
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yeah uh and frankly you know
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they they can’t even trust their own
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family members so how could you ever do
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business with people like that how
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but the reason that you can is because
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all of them are the same
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all of them
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the fact that they even have careers in
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it nancy pelosi
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donald trump any of them
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mitch mcconnell
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they’ve been in here and they’re too
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long in the tooth to pretend something’s
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a shock in my opinion oh look what he
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did look but this really y’all didn’t
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sit up there and think about how
17:27
having a bunch of drinks sometimes how
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you could freaking run this thing come
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on and if you didn’t then please leave
17:34
and step down and if dianne feinstein or
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whatever the hell her name is does not
17:38
resign we will be stuck if newsom loses
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with a the whole freaking senate will be
17:45
gone to us i mean gone
17:48
she needed to retire 100 years ago the
17:51
woman falls asleep in meetings no this
17:53
is really unbelievable
17:55
it’s like
17:56
we needed to do this we have an election
17:58
on the 14th what is she going to wait
18:01
until after she should have let newsom
18:03
assign who the new senator will be
18:06
taking her place
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and i can’t believe nobody’s all over
18:10
that because the old lady needs to go
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and there’s no excuse for it it’s it’s
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almost like they want it to happen
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it’s like when i was talking about
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cryptocurrency with somebody and saying
18:22
you know cryptocurrency should be
18:23
illegal because
18:25
it’s creating so much havoc across the
18:27
world and they say they can’t trace it
18:30
why the hell would you ever make that
18:33
legal i’m sorry screw your freedoms
18:36
screw whatever it’s the same with uh
18:39
face tuning and being able to change mit
18:43
i’m sorry this stuff that you just
18:45
invented we’re keeping it it is a
18:48
government it belongs to the american
18:50
government
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and we are not going to let other
18:53
foreign governments purchase the ability
18:56
to create videos with and and voice
18:59
recognition with our
19:01
with with people that are in power
19:03
because see this is the problem
19:05
everybody’s a freaking sellout they’re a
19:07
sellout
19:08
and then i had to look up today and hear
19:10
about the woes of mr asberger’s elon
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musk
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i got beaten up as a kid get over it we
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all did
19:16
somebody was beating up somebody all the
19:18
time get snap the hell out of it it’s
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like what what what we have become
19:24
and what we’re allowing like i said with
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the democrats i am so through at the
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moment you know i posted something about
19:33
newsome the other day
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and uh about just posting my ballot and
19:39
i got so much hate bots like millions of
19:43
people dming from all over republicans
19:46
trump people mentally ill people
19:49
and i just sat down and went i and then
19:52
i lost access to my account in a very
19:54
bizarre way for about a week
19:56
um close to a week i had to do the whole
19:59
identity
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i tried to block this woman as fast as i
20:04
could
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um but in the middle of it i got a flash
20:08
that i violated a policy and i hadn’t
20:10
violated policies but they they’ve
20:13
maneuvered one and i’m like all i did
20:15
was just post you know on my story and
20:18
my thing knew some you know that i voted
20:21
for him and to vote no on the recall and
20:23
people went bananas it it it was crazy
20:29
and not only that i had no access to any
20:31
of my passwords
20:33
and i was a mess because i was just like
20:36
i can’t believe i even rely on this mess
20:38
first of all the fact that first of all
20:41
that bothered me because i don’t like to
20:43
depend on anybody
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let alone anything meaning
20:48
a freaking app
20:50
and the fact that everything that we do
20:53
as business people or whatever is in
20:56
that
20:57
is a little bit disturbing that the u.s
20:59
government has not figured out how to
21:01
monitor this regulate it and control it
21:04
people are losing their accounts far
21:05
more popular than me and being
21:08
uh
21:10
embezzled uh being uh people have had to
21:12
pay in cryptocurrency to get their stuff
21:14
back and their companies this is wrong
21:17
and it’s outrageous so all these
21:19
distractions with you know we cannot
21:21
afford a war in afghanistan and i’m so
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sorry to the people of that country
21:26
because the reality is
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you know
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as prince said in this life you’re on
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your own it looks like it we’ve done
21:36
going on we we have so many things that
21:38
we have avoided to take care of here and
21:41
we’re only allowing america to be
21:46
basically to be used and to bypass
21:49
certain laws that other countries have
21:51
privacy laws much better than ours they
21:54
have better banking laws much better
21:56
than ours and everybody has learned how
21:59
to filter and launder their money
22:00
through companies here whether they’re
22:02
in wyoming whether they’re in delaware
22:04
this is what this country has become and
22:06
then they run it down through the
22:08
caymans this is really bad this is what
22:11
america is that’s why we all work like
22:13
slaves so we can all go out and purchase
22:16
like little little slaves to get the
22:17
same clothes that everybody’s buying at
22:19
h m and everybody else everybody has the
22:21
same
22:22
as everybody’s shopping in the same
22:24
place
22:25
that’s communism
22:27
that is communism
22:30
we all wear the same things the same
22:31
uniform the same fabrics
22:34
they call it a brand i call it communism
22:38
mom and pops are gone
22:40
this this we are buying from big
22:43
fiduciary big monopolies
22:46
and we think we’re free
22:49
we’re not free when the little guy gets
22:51
crushed
22:53
because of money
22:55
i mean to think that we’re gonna get
22:56
over and they’re all guilty of it
22:58
republicans and democrats by the way
23:00
it’s not it’s they’re all greedy they’re
23:02
like sniffing hunting little dogs
23:05
yeah i mean to think that we’re going to
23:07
get out and first of all and i want to
23:09
say anybody from the dnc watching this
23:12
next time you send me any more mail
23:14
about donating to you i started to think
23:17
half of you all you senators are rich on
23:19
your own use your own damn money for
23:21
your elections screw off i’m not giving
23:23
a dime
23:25
most of them are rich and they’re like
23:26
can you donate to that no i can’t
23:29
use your own money go in your own bank
23:31
account like i do to give you
23:33
pieces of trash money
23:36
my hard-earned money
23:38
i’m done
23:40
i mean to think that we’re going to get
23:41
out of afghanistan and not have to go
23:44
back we have been back and forth with
23:46
afghanistan for
23:48
decades okay for decades oh the arabs
23:52
are our whipping posts well yeah but to
23:54
think that you know they’re fighting us
23:57
with our own weapons
23:59
let’s not forget that back in the 80s
24:01
with our north and all of them
24:06
of the taliban weapons and fight and the
24:09
financial backing yeah and they turned
24:11
around and flipped it on us what do you
24:14
expect you give people something you say
24:16
you’re going to be there and then you
24:17
pull out
24:18
you become enemy number one and that’s
24:21
what that’s why we are where we are now
24:24
and pulling out this time
24:26
we’re not gonna be able to go back and
24:28
have people trust us this is this is
24:31
absolutely
24:32
ridiculous what’s going on now in
24:34
afghanistan
24:35
is the future for america and foreign
24:38
relations
24:40
well there’s no veritas there’s no truth
24:42
in any of this because the reality is
24:45
even though i don’t like these people
24:47
who are following have followed trump
24:49
the thing is he figured out how to wedge
24:51
himself in
24:53
with with our men our vets the reality
24:56
is you need to find out why these
24:58
veterans are so salty and upset they
25:01
have come back from i’m not taking
25:03
anything away from what they witnessed
25:05
what they saw what they had to do to
25:08
survive god knows what was eating their
25:11
souls
25:13
but
25:14
all it took was a con man to come in and
25:16
slide in we have no mental health here
25:18
for these people when they come back
25:20
they barely get any respect and they’re
25:22
living on like the lowest of wages and
25:25
it’s wrong you if you treat someone like
25:28
an animal they’re gonna suddenly become
25:31
like one to you so america needs to
25:34
answer for having these men and women in
25:36
the army for 10 20 years that they lost
25:40
sight and were so delusional by the time
25:43
they left that means that they were out
25:46
there not trusting any orders that were
25:48
being given to them
25:50
doubting whatever they already went
25:51
through that process of having so much
25:53
empathy for what was happening there
25:55
because otherwise they wouldn’t come
25:56
back here as bitter as they are
25:58
yeah
26:00
so
26:01
a quick question and i know probably on
26:04
a later date we’ll get deeper into this
26:06
what should america’s role be in the
26:08
world
26:09
we need to take care of ourselves first
26:11
and foremost we need to stay out of
26:13
other people’s business and mind the
26:15
business of getting this country back
26:17
together because right now this country
26:19
is falling apart democracy is at risk
26:21
people are getting sick and dying
26:24
until we can fix ourselves we can’t
26:27
expect any place else in the world
26:30
to do as we say i’m sorry we just can’t
26:34
we’re so messed up right now that we
26:36
can’t
26:37
we can’t even begin to have a standing
26:39
in the world
26:42
okay well i think i i don’t think you’ll
26:45
need to add anything because you said it
26:46
already i mean yeah i mean and i also
26:48
think that america needs to sit down
26:50
because the reality is that
26:53
they’re the democracy’s already gone
26:55
there’s just the loopholes in place that
26:57
keep it functioning as if
27:01
but democrat democracy is gone when you
27:04
cannot
27:06
implement
27:08
and enforce
27:09
the laws that uphold democracy
27:12
we have not put anybody in jail
27:15
for the horrible crimes that they’ve
27:16
committed
27:17
and it seems like that just doesn’t
27:19
exist
27:20
we have politicians that need to be
27:22
going to jail
27:24
we have a whole load of them a paddy
27:27
wagon needs to be filled and they just
27:29
need to drive up to congress and load
27:31
them all up
27:33
it’s that critical and and i do believe
27:36
that there is no democracy anymore
27:38
everybody is on their own
27:40
and that laws are not being enforced we
27:42
have rogue police
27:45
what more can we say where’s the
27:46
democracy courts are only trying uh
27:50
people who are poor broke
27:52
uh you know political enemies
27:55
that’s it but they’re not going after
27:57
the elite the rich
27:58
at all
28:00
we have medical
28:06
everybody’s like fight for democracy
28:08
honey democracy is gone yeah okay and
28:10
that’s what happens with people who are
28:12
drug addicts it’s like sobriety is gone
28:15
even though they even though they need
28:17
help to get back to where they need to
28:19
be
28:20
but it’s it’s it’s gone and that the
28:23
addiction that we have now is war we
28:26
have an addiction of hate we have these
28:28
all these things that we can’t
28:31
get rid of
28:33
i don’t know if they’ll be able to even
28:35
go back to war the way they think
28:38
these kids and these young people coming
28:39
up i don’t know if they have but i don’t
28:42
think they’d have the manpower and i
28:44
don’t think
28:45
that
28:46
they’re at a point where they would even
28:48
go
28:49
yeah i don’t think that they would
28:50
either and that’s
28:52
a war they were born because
28:54
anybody who feels patriotic
28:57
it’s like it’s kind of foe isn’t it it’s
29:00
like it’s all these people who are in
29:02
the system the politicians have
29:05
destroyed the country and for a very
29:07
long time i don’t think there’s been
29:09
sound democracy here the otherwise if it
29:12
were it would have never been able to
29:15
have been torn asunder we have actual
29:18
traitors in this country
29:20
and it all
29:21
they’re in corporate america they’re
29:23
everywhere so their allegiance is not to
29:25
hear
29:26
so it’s not fair for them to blame it on
29:28
just a bunch of people who started
29:30
following donald trump there were a lot
29:32
of people rich people involved in this
29:35
thing
29:36
by giving him money the koch brothers
29:38
that family there’s a lot of people that
29:41
need their feet held to the fire
29:44
because to just say it’s a bunch of
29:46
crazy trump people i’m beyond that this
29:49
goes into some very very specific
29:51
planning that went a long way
29:54
and started during the tea party and it
29:57
was a long game that they played and
29:59
they’ve had help
30:00
not just nationally but internationally
30:03
yeah and they they should all be charged
30:06
we killed the rosenbergs for less
30:10
all right let’s move on uh let’s go over
30:13
to some more comments
30:16
uh
30:17
we’ve got black beauty and let’s not
30:19
forget we’re here for the poppy right of
30:21
cartels we also have here
30:24
and all of our greed written contractors
30:26
refusing to leave and cry off that we’ve
30:29
abandoned them leave them they’ll get
30:31
back trust me spot on ladies
30:34
jen is saying uh black beauty says the
30:37
senate is clearly not going to pass the
30:39
john lewis voting rights back thus will
30:41
not have a throw stone at democracy
30:44
and the inspired thought someone knew
30:46
yes speak the truth this started well
30:48
before 45. exactly great comments
30:51
everyone and we really like new people
30:53
coming on board appreciate it
30:55
appreciate it big time well uh there’s
30:58
gonna be a running theme throughout the
31:00
rest of the conversation anniversaries
31:02
some and most of them not too good so
31:05
let’s first off go
31:09
yesterday was the 50th anniversary of
31:11
the march on washington
31:15
how much
31:16
has america changed civil rights wise in
31:19
the last 58 years a march on washington
31:21
who those are not familiar was a famous
31:24
march martin luther king gave his i have
31:27
a dream speech
31:28
58 years ago how much has changed
31:31
nothing they exploit martin luther king
31:34
and the fact that we are still fighting
31:37
for voting rights the 1963 march on
31:40
washington let’s not forget was about
31:42
voting rights because the um
31:45
civil rights bill came the year after in
31:47
the voting rights bill from the year
31:48
after that 65.
31:50
um
31:51
the the main thing was they were getting
31:53
people to register to vote during that
31:55
uh march and voting right was was a
31:59
major theme and here we are 2021
32:03
still trying to pass a voting rights
32:06
bill to basically restore
32:09
what the 65 legislation had done which
32:12
which prevented states particularly the
32:15
southern states from
32:16
um enacting these voter registration um
32:20
these voter id
32:22
laws and the these restrictions and
32:25
these oppressions
32:26
um and here we are right now you know
32:30
back to where we were 58 years ago so
32:34
it’s like um
32:36
you know and the fact that yesterday
32:38
they actually had a march to um demand
32:41
to to deal with the voting rights act
32:44
it’s 58 years later we’re still doing
32:46
this and and it’s it’s
32:49
completely insane to me that we have to
32:51
go we have to continuously go back
32:54
to fix things that were supposedly fixed
32:58
in the past because we have certain
33:00
people in our country that don’t want
33:02
progress to happen
33:05
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33:06
anything you want to add jill well i i
33:08
mean i’m kind of um
33:11
i i think that if somebody keeps
33:12
treating you like dirt you’ve got to
33:14
like pay attention i mean
33:16
personally uh
33:18
you know it’s like
33:20
it’s like america belongs to some other
33:22
people and you’re the mistress
33:25
you know it’s like they’re married to
33:26
some other they’re married to somebody
33:28
else
33:29
and you’re just sitting there in the
33:30
wings you’re the side chick the side
33:32
piece not even a chick side piece
33:35
and
33:36
you know the one thing i did realize so
33:40
brutally and it sounds so stupid with
33:42
the instagram thing was that
33:45
how exploited we are and now we
33:47
willingly allow ourselves to be
33:49
exploited and then tossed away like
33:52
garbage
33:53
um the fact that this has been going on
33:56
you know shows how little solidarity has
33:59
been in the community
34:01
the fact that we can’t seem to wrangle
34:05
uh you know
34:06
a pot to even pee in anymore is is so
34:10
incredibly you know they’ve been
34:12
succeeding there’s how many men black
34:14
men are in jail here
34:16
so there’s so many
34:18
prisons are the modern day plantation
34:20
they are and and i think that the
34:23
reality should just people should just
34:25
wake up
34:27
and just say
34:28
they don’t want us here
34:31
and
34:32
they’re vowing to make sure we never
34:35
have our voting rights never on paper
34:38
you know when i was born
34:40
um
34:42
they wrote illegitimate on my
34:44
on my birth
34:46
certificate yeah and they wouldn’t put
34:49
my father’s name on what weren’t married
34:51
mm-hmm
34:52
illegitimate illegitimate is what it
34:55
said
34:56
so a lot of people like i remember when
34:58
they were freaking out about barack
34:59
obama’s uh
35:01
his uh
35:02
baby uh certificate things were very
35:04
different in those times what they
35:06
wanted to put
35:08
and they would i mean
35:10
he was you know thank god he was in
35:11
another state where they allowed african
35:13
but i actually do believe that african
35:16
was going to be better than you know
35:18
just
35:18
i don’t know my parents birth
35:20
certificates were not like that like my
35:21
mother was born in 51 her she was born
35:24
in south carolina hers is colored
35:26
and my father was born in connecticut
35:29
fifties yeah ohio
35:32
yeah ohio had negro yeah and mine um
35:35
mine is black actually yeah and then
35:37
they mixed me up at the hospital which
35:39
was really weird they gave me to some
35:41
white woman
35:42
um
35:43
yeah
35:44
that was really strange
35:46
i know minnie was not having that she
35:48
was not but so my whole point is that
35:51
all this has been going on and
35:53
um yeah we have successful black
35:56
african-american people in this country
35:58
and they’re doing well
36:00
and um the only thing is that they’ve
36:02
left people behind and i don’t know if
36:04
it’s really hit them with people like
36:06
julian bond having gone away passed away
36:09
people like
36:11
jesse johnson say prayers with jesse
36:14
um and jesse johnson not jesse jones and
36:17
jesse jackson and his wife was sending
36:19
prayers to them i know that his wife
36:21
jacqueline is not doing very well
36:23
or not that she’s not doing very well
36:26
she just needed extra oxygen so i’m
36:28
praying for her
36:29
um she wasn’t vaccinated if that’s true
36:32
i don’t know but um
36:34
so my whole point is we’re in a really
36:37
bad situation and black people need to
36:39
figure it out because there really
36:40
aren’t still enough that get out and go
36:42
and vote well if you’re raising your
36:45
philadelphia story that i can tell you
36:46
that um
36:48
honestly turned me off of him
36:51
it was 2 000
36:52
um
36:54
2006
36:58
yeah 2006
37:00
and he was at the university of south
37:01
carolina
37:03
and i went to go see him because it’s
37:04
part of my job
37:06
and julian bond somebody asked him is he
37:08
ready was he ready to pass on the torch
37:10
he said the next generations will have
37:12
to pry it out of his cold dead hands
37:16
and for me that was like
37:18
whoa
37:19
it’s like dude but i don’t think he was
37:21
wrong your generation hasn’t done
37:23
anything
37:24
no they have that
37:25
but he but this was these were and i i
37:27
mean
37:28
guys the old guys did play they had to
37:31
play a lot of in a time where they
37:33
really did have to play
37:35
along with white men at dinners and all
37:38
this now you have people willingly like
37:39
jay-z and everybody they go to dinner
37:41
with the white man and they’re looking
37:43
to get whatever they can from the
37:44
relationship they actually you know
37:47
although i’m not condemning
37:49
jay-z and his wife
37:51
but what because they do a lot for the
37:53
black community but what i am
37:56
pushing more for
37:57
is
37:59
i wish they would push it more to show
38:02
people how to do it more that it’s it’s
38:05
not just top down it’s bottom up and
38:08
other people need to know how to
38:11
how to do that and foster it in
38:13
communities we have to figure out how to
38:15
solidify
38:16
those
38:17
places for people
38:19
you know but people do what they can i’m
38:22
not going to judge them it’s i’m not
38:24
trying to but i would say that as far as
38:26
politicians that we have we have hakeem
38:28
jeffries who’s doing his best but they
38:31
they they have to uh learn how to get
38:34
some cojones against these white folks
38:37
that they’ve been taught to be nice to
38:39
because they thought everybody was being
38:40
nice to them but hey none of these
38:42
people have gotten us
38:44
our voting rights passed
38:46
and they’re old they’ve been there
38:47
forever so as far as i could exactly
38:50
they they allowed the
38:53
um
38:54
rollbacks to the 65 voting rights
38:56
legislation to happen i mean they didn’t
38:59
have to have a quorum
39:01
i mean they didn’t have to remember
39:02
that’s the only way you know they’ll
39:04
never vote for term limits no but i do
39:06
and that’s what we need that’s what we
39:09
need
39:10
although the muscle and the hustlers
39:12
will for sure still so
39:16
i’m just gonna um
39:18
go to some comments
39:20
green eyed saying the world is lost the
39:23
kids that they think war is a game they
39:24
think hate is cool and they aren’t
39:26
taught social skills
39:28
also says kids don’t go into stem we are
39:30
losing scientists left and right our
39:33
american kids are too dumb america black
39:36
beauty yes and we’re right back where we
39:37
started and as you see
39:39
it barely made the news talking about
39:41
the protests of yesterday about
39:42
celebrating them
39:44
um
39:45
also green eyed it’s depressing that we
39:47
are going backwards
39:48
blue reigns it’s really sad and
39:50
frustrating to be still fighting for
39:52
voting rights it’s demoralizing it’s
39:54
it’s absolutely uh
39:57
i can’t even
39:59
it’s demoralizing
40:01
and expected to get worse because after
40:03
the census came out and said that the
40:05
majority of people that they were
40:07
counting that the number of white people
40:09
has gone down and the number of people
40:11
of color has gone up
40:13
expect voting rights to be
40:16
the thing that they work at the hardest
40:20
to deny us
40:22
of course that that’s a that’s me we’ve
40:24
been saying on this platform for months
40:28
the central focus for the next few years
40:30
in america is voting
40:32
personally i would love to see kamala
40:34
harris dealing with busting up the whole
40:37
redlining of banks because i don’t we
40:40
need
40:40
that’s where we need
40:42
the bus stop that’s where we need the
40:44
war actually yeah and elizabeth warren
40:47
for once can somebody please give
40:49
elizabeth warren something some fruit
40:51
some her and katie whatever her name is
40:54
the other one
40:55
destroy them
40:56
but you know they won’t because
40:58
everybody’s too vested the problem why
41:01
america can’t be a country is because
41:03
people put their own interests ahead of
41:06
everybody else okay that is true but i
41:08
would say another thing i’m gonna say
41:10
two things first of all and i think i’ve
41:12
said it before especially the democratic
41:14
party
41:15
rightly or wrongly they’re trying to
41:17
please everybody
41:27
but at the same token if you’re going to
41:29
be a big tent party you also have to
41:32
really have a backbone to support the
41:34
people that are under the tent and they
41:37
don’t
41:38
that’s the that’s the biggest problem is
41:40
that they want to be this big ten party
41:42
but they’re not supporting they’re not
41:44
taking the steps needed
41:47
to support the people that are under the
41:49
tent because they’re so afraid that they
41:51
will lose the next election well you
41:53
know what gamble on the next election
41:56
because that’s the only way you’re going
41:58
to really solidify
42:00
this increase in the senate this
42:02
increase in the house is if you actually
42:05
do something because people are getting
42:07
tired of you telling them oh well vote
42:09
will vote vote vote vote vote and it’ll
42:11
be better well no it’s not getting
42:13
better because you’re not doing your
42:14
damn jobs and here and that’s such a
42:17
great point because
42:19
what we really need
42:21
is you know
42:23
yes we know joe biden said i’m here for
42:25
everybody
42:27
well the whole point is
42:29
it’s called conversion joe you need to
42:32
make people feel safe under that big
42:34
tent
42:35
so they convert so we don’t go down this
42:37
road again
42:39
you create security
42:41
but what’s happening is they keep asking
42:44
democrats
42:46
to
42:47
look for security in a very insecure
42:51
space
42:52
it’s just never it never manifests where
42:56
we get ours and it’s wrong we we got it
43:00
partially with president obama but then
43:03
those republicans lined up in like you
43:06
know a single file and
43:08
hit back hard and made his life
43:09
incredibly difficult but now i see why
43:13
he actually caved because look who was
43:15
behind him
43:17
they’re not that strong
43:18
the democrats then were even weaker than
43:21
the ones that you know right now at
43:23
least we’ve got the aoc’s and we’ve got
43:25
the squad girls who i know can you know
43:27
get scrappy but
43:29
but
43:30
they have to also learn that it’s not
43:33
just scrappy it’s strategic because
43:36
everybody is involved
43:38
some way with their stock market with
43:41
their donors because remember big
43:43
corporations donate to both they donate
43:46
to the republicans and they’ll donate to
43:48
their dems always always somebody may
43:50
get a few thousand dollars more whatever
43:52
but they all play the cards all of them
43:54
google will give the same amount to each
43:56
one
43:57
no one’s like
43:58
they just want their money and that’s
44:00
the problem
44:02
well
44:03
i’ll say one thing and there’s nothing
44:05
i’m thinking about singing i don’t know
44:06
if i’m going to save at least one thing
44:09
blacks around the world need to learn
44:12
how to play chess not checkers
44:14
absolutely absolutely
44:16
absolutely
44:17
and the other thing i’m going to say
44:20
rightly or wrong i’m going to put it out
44:22
there many blacks suffer from one
44:25
of these three things or probably two of
44:27
them are all of them
44:29
trauma
44:31
repetition
44:34
and
44:34
symbolism yeah
44:37
yeah i see that
44:39
so that’s a whole other conversation but
44:42
i mean if you meet an american who is a
44:44
black atheist it’s kind of mind-boggling
44:47
i mean it not mind-boggling it blows my
44:49
mind i’m like oh wow what a progressive
44:51
what you know do you know what a leap
44:54
that’s a big deal
44:56
there aren’t enough black atheists in
44:58
this country as far as i’m concerned
45:00
they would never think of it they’re
45:02
stuck in like
45:03
tradition or whatever that’s about
45:05
there’s people who didn’t even fill out
45:06
the freaking census form because they
45:08
got superstitions or you know and the
45:11
reality is
45:14
people have at some point you have to
45:16
realize i mean i’ve looked at my life i
45:19
used to not have seashells in the house
45:21
i used to not do this because of this or
45:23
because of that and i was superstitious
45:25
and there comes a point in your life
45:26
where you have to take a really good
45:28
look at it and go
45:29
i am where i am
45:31
not because of a seashell
45:33
not because of you know
45:35
you know walking around and burying
45:37
something in the dirt at night with
45:39
three circles around it or uh going to
45:42
church and mass every day i am where i
45:44
am because of my own
45:47
decisions decisions that you made
45:50
and the people you associated with and
45:52
when you take accountability like that
45:54
then you become a better asset for a god
45:57
for a a
46:01
i gotta say i was the
46:03
i was fortunate enough to be raised in
46:05
the nation of islam until i was about 11
46:08
or 12. and then my parents were like
46:10
make your own decision on your faith
46:13
and just left it wide open to the point
46:16
that i could see
46:18
you know that
46:20
my decisions were my own
46:22
right and that every step it’s like i
46:24
talked to my daughter about this
46:25
yesterday and i said you know um
46:29
you know yeah i could have dated this
46:31
person in that person it could have gone
46:32
on for whatever i said but had i not
46:35
made the decisions that i made you would
46:37
not be here
46:38
absolutely take it
46:40
speak
46:48
led me to
46:50
her being born right i think after that
46:53
comment we can move on to the next
46:54
conversation piece that’s like drop the
46:57
mic
46:59
drop the mic
47:01
another comment here
47:03
uh exactly joe recreate the black wall
47:05
street well you know something
47:07
again i won’t get to black wall street
47:09
exists but the media doesn’t cover it
47:11
there’s a lot of blocks that are doing
47:13
very well you have some shows about it
47:16
yes
47:17
yes there’s a lot of black but again
47:20
we have so many things we’re going to
47:21
chat about down the road but
47:23
we have to realize that most organized
47:26
groups especially the media has an
47:28
agenda exactly
47:30
sorry and i’ve worked in the media for a
47:32
long time and
47:34
i mean i’ve covered things that i’ve
47:36
been like when you wrote when you
47:38
dr vibe the first article that got you
47:41
to have yes
47:42
yes yes um i wrote it for the huffington
47:44
post and i was surprised it was taught
47:47
it was called why america needs to
47:50
listen to black women and i was
47:52
surprised that nobody was covering
47:55
anything like that
47:57
that no because because the end result
47:59
of that article the last piece the last
48:02
sentence was because
48:04
um when america doesn’t listen to black
48:06
women donald trump is what happens when
48:08
you don’t
48:10
right but we also have we haven’t fixed
48:12
that but let’s be honest we also have a
48:14
serious aegis for ageism problem in this
48:17
country
48:18
and you know i can tell you i was
48:20
sending out resumes right because
48:22
i’d like to work
48:24
do some writing again producing
48:27
and you know they can read that how old
48:30
i am it’s so clear
48:32
they can look me up
48:35
not one response not one okay okay
48:39
we got a good okay we have someone that
48:41
has a a
48:43
jail i disagree unfortunately too many
48:45
of our people are oppressed not because
48:47
of our belief in god but because of lack
48:49
of knowledge of how the political system
48:51
is structured in america but a lot of
48:53
that has to do with faith because you
48:54
have to remember
48:56
um
48:57
the reason they were able to keep slaves
48:59
enslaved was to use the bible and use
49:02
king king james was illiterate okay yeah
49:05
and that they used the king james
49:06
version of the bible to say you know
49:08
this whole miksha ha inherit the earth
49:11
and that um being enslaved was being
49:14
next to god these were things that were
49:17
used against our people in order to keep
49:21
us in a position of servitude so
49:24
even though
49:26
um
49:27
it would be nice to believe that um
49:30
religion has always been used to the
49:32
detriment of black people in this
49:34
country always
49:38
okay
49:39
well
49:40
folks as you see we’re having another
49:41
quiet show and let’s go to this comment
49:44
first of all we need to stop calling it
49:46
black wall street we need our own name
49:49
for the name
49:50
for the same type of community well that
49:53
well i will say this that name was given
49:55
to black wall street by black people so
49:58
i don’t really see the need in changing
50:00
the name if it was given to if it was
50:02
given by white people sure but it was
50:05
given by black people because black
50:06
people are calling themselves black when
50:08
white people are still calling them
50:10
color
50:11
all right let’s move on
50:13
the recent 16th anniversary of katrina
50:15
and i think we can also piggyback at
50:17
what’s going on on the gulf coast right
50:19
now with another storm hurricane ida
50:22
like hitting 16 years to the day
50:27
that’s crazy
50:29
i mean katrina was incredibly disruptive
50:32
i remember
50:33
um
50:34
my daughter was still a
50:37
very little toddler
50:38
and watching all the destruction on
50:41
television and
50:43
just thinking
50:44
and for me it was really a shock because
50:48
um
50:48
the day i had looked at uh
50:51
some of the reports there was actually
50:53
someone named aisha who was just
50:55
floating in the water
50:57
which really creeped me out and because
50:59
years ago i wanted to live in new
51:01
orleans
51:02
oh wow late 90s like and it just really
51:05
freaked me out um
51:08
but
51:09
you know
51:11
new orleans is it it feels like it’s
51:13
just getting back on track right and um
51:18
well for for for let me say this it’s
51:21
not for the poor people who are it’s
51:23
getting back up
51:24
okay yeah
51:26
it’s getting it’s getting back on track
51:28
for the people
51:29
like uh your emerald lagacies and
51:32
you know those kinds of people who have
51:34
businesses there and they got their ppp
51:36
loans this go around and to be built and
51:39
stuff but you know
51:41
for if we can recall back 16 years ago
51:45
during
51:46
katrina that was
51:49
so detrimental to black people
51:52
in new orleans if you recall um the
51:55
people at the superdome
51:57
wow all the rapes just can i just
52:00
interrupt here just got an update from
52:01
one of our community i just read the
52:03
entire city of new orleans has lost
52:05
power wow wow oh wow katrina
52:09
all over again because you know they
52:10
didn’t fix anything with the money that
52:12
they got did not fix the levees no they
52:15
did not no oh my goodness and so that
52:18
city oh
52:19
man i i feel like i feel like water
52:21
again like do people in new orleans feel
52:24
like they’re like haiti
52:26
they must
52:28
like it just they seem to parallel each
52:30
other with just catastrophe like
52:33
obviously new orleans is a little bit
52:34
further spread apart but this happening
52:36
again like 16 let’s not say that too
52:38
often because then they’ll start saying
52:40
it’s you know we were cursed in the
52:41
bible
52:42
uh we’re the where that group in the
52:44
bible the ones who raped uh moses or
52:48
noah or one of them
52:49
you know the son don’t please because
52:51
that’s already one
52:53
horrible trope that goes around that
52:55
that’s why black people are cursed it’s
52:58
it’s disgusting we have some very
52:59
unintelligent people who rely on
53:02
some really bad uh
53:04
information
53:05
the the thing that people should be
53:07
paying attention to is that
53:09
there’s repetition here and when
53:11
something repeats itself like this it’s
53:14
it there’s a need for people to stand up
53:16
for true accountability like what the
53:17
hell have you all been doing
53:19
uh why do you why didn’t you fix the
53:21
levees why are these people still in
53:23
these dastardly positions and how
53:26
they’re living new orleans
53:28
covid has ravaged them um
53:32
because also superstition and also
53:34
poverty and
53:36
and unfortunately you know
53:39
can i just say something every place
53:41
cannot be a freaking hgtv design show
53:44
people
53:46
everything cannot be a renovation
53:49
everything cannot be this bloody
53:52
it’s everybody
53:53
touting up numbers and and everything is
53:57
you know i’ve got an airbn i’ve got a
53:59
house i’m going to put it on airbnb it’s
54:01
got to stop we are seeing people in the
54:04
forms of their greatest hustle and
54:07
people don’t even realize we are living
54:09
in a charles dickens movie
54:12
and cannot handle the fact of why
54:14
there’s homeless it’s not just because
54:17
of some of the governors it’s the people
54:20
of america too
54:22
the people here have no morals they
54:24
don’t care about anybody for the most
54:27
part the ones who have the money
54:29
it’s
54:30
survival of the fittest and some are
54:32
very happy with that
54:35
this is horrible that these people are
54:36
going through this katrina again and
54:39
it’s gonna hit the poor people
54:42
and
54:43
you know let’s just hope that uh
54:46
i don’t know what to say we are dealing
54:48
with climate change it’s just gonna
54:49
become worse and worse and then there’ll
54:51
be a group that goes down and
54:53
you know we’ll do the donations and
54:55
we’ll do it all over again and what did
54:57
einstein say
54:59
about repetition if you keep having to
55:00
repeat something over and over again i
55:03
mean this is a problem
55:05
this is really bad
55:06
the definition of
55:08
doing the same thing over and over again
55:10
and getting different results again
55:11
getting back to what i said about trauma
55:15
repetition
55:16
symbolism
55:18
okay we are going to take a break
55:22
here but yeah that that whole situation
55:25
in new orleans is
55:28
oh boy that’s a whole other conversation
55:30
so
55:31
let’s go on a break and uh when we come
55:34
back we’ll
55:35
look at some other other anniversaries
55:38
so
55:39
keep it locked
55:41
we’ll be back in a bit go so ladies what
55:43
is going on
55:45
just that he needs to get it together
55:47
sick of that i am sick of it something
55:50
is seriously wrong with you is that i
55:52
mean why is he still there
55:55
shouldn’t she shouldn’t be near congress
55:57
you need an exorcism because i don’t
56:00
know
56:01
what
56:02
is wrong with you people it was so
56:05
powerful and i really wish everybody
56:07
would stop bowing down to this
56:10
what is he talking about
56:12
this makes no sense they know they are
56:14
not the oppressed party but they love
56:17
being the superior ones and they want to
56:19
flaunt it so it was always made
56:21
political particularly for people of
56:23
color
56:25
and the lgbtq
56:27
population we end off every episode with
56:30
the cockroach this afro episode’s
56:33
cockroach
56:34
ah
56:36
everything
56:36
[Music]
56:43
what is up everybody it’s dr vibe here
56:46
and it is
56:47
black canada talking time black canada
56:49
talking is a live online event that
56:52
provides black canadians the opportunity
56:53
to give their takes on stories povs that
56:56
are of importance of to them or we
56:58
showcase blockchains or doing their
57:00
thing the real
57:01
aspect of what goes on behind the walls
57:04
or behind the fence is a totally
57:05
different persona and a totally
57:07
different picture there was just a big
57:09
sense of relief when we finally got
57:11
there
57:12
we have to realize that everything we do
57:14
is going to have an impact on probably a
57:16
lot of people we don’t even know
57:19
one of the mandates of the cbc is to
57:22
reflect canada back to itself not a lot
57:25
of sustainable long-term movement that
57:27
will affect economic change god bless
57:30
peace well keep the faith and walk good
57:32
[Music]
57:36
we are back the ladies are back took a
57:40
little bit of extended break but we’ve
57:42
got it going on and just want to catch
57:44
up on some of the comp there’s some
57:45
earlier comments that we missed
57:48
green eyed is saying biden needs to help
57:50
the landlord since the evictions are
57:51
starting again during the pandemic
57:54
uh
57:56
also oh that you’ve got jen’s up already
57:59
we have here
58:00
black people are calling themselves the
58:02
n-word too so does so does that make it
58:05
right when we know history will be more
58:06
inclined to stand on what we are built
58:09
not what we’ve built not what others
58:12
have
58:13
t stephen’s jill is right on point
58:16
black musing prayers for the people of
58:18
louise louisiana absolutely big time
58:20
prayers for the people in louisiana
58:22
so let’s keep on to our anniversary
58:25
theme and the recent anniversary of the
58:28
death of aaliyah
58:30
aisha yeah you know the the day that
58:33
olia died i was in the car with my
58:36
mother and my youngest sister
58:39
um my other sister was in dc at the time
58:41
and um it came across the radio and it
58:45
was one of those things because
58:47
um
58:49
she was you know i remember seeing her
58:51
at howard’s homecoming in 95.
58:54
and um it was just really
58:57
a shock and actually that night i was
58:59
supposed to go see tina marie in concert
59:03
here at a park in hartford and tina
59:06
marie did a dedication to her
59:08
and she brought her daughter on stage to
59:10
sing with her um
59:13
it was um
59:14
it really impacted me a lot because my
59:18
biggest fear
59:19
is plane crashes i’m i hate to fly
59:23
and plane crashes really terrify me to
59:26
death
59:28
and that um
59:30
was something that really impacted me
59:31
but this week
59:33
um our kelly’s on trial
59:35
yes he is he is and so the thing that
59:38
came out was that um his marriage to
59:42
alia was a way that he
59:45
tried to conceal
59:47
or get away with
59:49
having sex with a minor
59:52
that that was the purpose behind the
59:55
marriage that he thought that if they
59:57
were married it wouldn’t be considered
60:00
illegal or child molestation
60:03
and so that was something that came out
60:05
this week in trial
60:07
um
60:09
this week also her um
60:12
former record label
60:14
uh put her music some of her music back
60:16
on streaming
60:18
yes the one
60:19
album yeah but but that’s caused some
60:21
contention too because i think it’s her
60:24
yes it’s her uncle has been given
60:25
permission to do that but the estate is
60:28
not happy with that yeah her family’s
60:30
not happy with that and i get it but i
60:32
don’t get it because all these years her
60:35
music has been unavailable the only
60:37
thing that’s been available is the album
60:39
that she did with r
60:40
kelly the first album and so um they’re
60:44
releasing her other album
60:47
slowly so
60:48
um one in a million came out last week
60:50
and then i believe this week the
60:52
um
60:53
economist album comes out which was her
60:56
last album
60:57
um
60:59
and and you know there was there was
61:00
just it was just a really strange time
61:04
because even the producer uh the
61:06
co-producer of that album with
61:07
timberland static major uh died shortly
61:11
after she did
61:14
it was just a really weird time and i
61:16
remember i remember that because
61:18
you know
61:20
my late you know
61:22
late teens early twenties
61:24
grew up with elia
61:28
any thoughts on aaliyah that you have
61:30
jill
61:32
um
61:36
wow
61:37
oh did you just do that as a
61:39
ventriloquist
61:41
or was your did the film slow down
61:44
right
61:47
spooky
61:48
[Music]
61:49
that was really weird um yeah i mean it
61:52
was a great loss uh what can you say
61:55
it’s uh
61:57
it’s that urgency in the business you
61:59
know people don’t take precautions uh
62:03
too many people on a tiny plane luggage
62:07
overloading um
62:09
that’s uh
62:12
i mean
62:13
that that’s to be expected i mean in in
62:15
the industry but i think uh
62:18
the fact is that the plane was
62:20
overloaded yeah and they do i know when
62:23
i flew into saint bart uh
62:26
they met they weigh everybody and i was
62:28
like seven months pregnant and you know
62:30
you can’t get in on a big jet like you
62:32
take it down to like st martin and then
62:34
you have to fly in over in a little tiny
62:37
plane
62:38
but they’re totally also even
62:40
positioning you in the seats like you
62:43
know here here here
62:45
so sometimes the
62:47
worst part of this industry is
62:50
being really smart
62:52
and it’s hard because you hope people
62:53
are looking out for you but somebody
62:55
needed to not go home
62:57
or bags needed to be sent later
63:00
um and it’s kind of what we saw with
63:03
kobe it’s that rush
63:05
and to get to the next venue the next
63:08
place
63:09
whoever is paying for it they don’t you
63:12
know see that it’s all that
63:14
yeah and it was a very sad accident
63:16
unfortunately
63:19
it impacted me a lot because in terms of
63:22
how i fly
63:23
because you know to fly into new haven
63:24
connecticut you always have to get on a
63:27
small plane
63:29
and there have been times where i’ve
63:31
seen like a 500 pound person
63:34
on one side of the plane i’m looking at
63:35
i’m on the other side i’m like i’m
63:37
getting off this plane now but that
63:39
comes back down to science and that
63:41
comes back down to physics
63:43
and how they’ve got computers now that
63:45
figured that out but by the same token i
63:48
don’t think you were in as small a plane
63:50
as she was in it didn’t even have a
63:52
bathroom on that plane yeah
63:54
really my smallest plane was like a 20
63:56
theater yeah i mean this was this was a
63:59
little lear and in those days and even
64:02
before i took a lear before with prince
64:06
um they’re small
64:08
they’re really really bloody small
64:10
and they’re pretty efficient i guess but
64:13
as in any of those planes that the
64:15
bigger jets i mean i hate flying too
64:17
don’t get me wrong
64:18
and it really freaks me out but uh
64:21
you know just make sure you
64:24
you know yeah it’s it’s interesting
64:26
because i i i can somewhat really i i
64:29
don’t really mind flying too much but i
64:30
will say that the time that i had to go
64:33
to yellowknife in the northwest
64:34
territories
64:36
and it was at night and it was a smaller
64:38
plane and it’s
64:40
it’s that’s probably the smallest plane
64:42
i’ve ever been in and i’m going okay
64:44
it’s totally dark
64:46
awful
64:48
and if this plane goes down right
64:51
i’m not too far from the arctic circle
64:54
who gonna find me if this thing goes
64:57
down right i’m just going okay
65:01
by the grace of god there go i got but
65:03
that was just and just really
65:06
really interesting like i mean all of
65:08
those people lost their lives because
65:10
someone didn’t want to make a decision
65:13
i’m pretty sure
65:15
that there was an uh some issue about
65:18
it’s too heavy
65:19
because i just don’t believe that
65:22
you know
65:23
i mean really but it comes back down to
65:26
this whole thing and then a pilot
65:27
overestimating that he can do it because
65:29
they always want to please
65:32
the celebrities i mean and
65:34
to be a celebrity do you know how
65:36
narcissistic you have to be
65:39
uh
65:40
first of all
65:41
just so you know christie said northwest
65:43
territory she chunkles christie no
65:45
offense there i love the place i want to
65:47
go back there because i am so in love
65:50
with the people there like
65:53
my heart he’s flying in the dark in the
65:55
northwest anywhere it’s all radar it’s
65:58
amazing
65:59
yeah yeah but it is you feel everything
66:01
on your way
66:02
yeah i wasn’t that much older than her
66:04
which like really just like brought my
66:07
whole
66:09
you know well you sound like you were a
66:11
big fan
66:13
well you know what it was it was it was
66:16
i remember i had very fond memories of
66:18
the one in a million album because when
66:20
i was at graduate school it was the big
66:22
thing at hbcu
66:24
okay yeah she was huge yeah and getting
66:27
to see her at hbcu
66:29
but just someone my age being
66:33
struck you know
66:35
a plane crash like that um plane crashes
66:38
continue continuously have these impacts
66:41
on me like when jfk
66:43
um yeah that was awful i was about to
66:46
fly right before that when i leave
66:49
i was about to fly right after that and
66:52
then um
66:54
about uh
66:56
seven years ago i had a friend who a
66:58
small plane crashed into her house
67:01
oh
67:02
and killed her children oh and so
67:05
these things
67:06
it’s like these things keep
67:08
coming up yeah coming up
67:11
yeah playing crash with me like even
67:13
reading when i was younger about otis
67:15
redding dying yes
67:17
yes
67:18
and patsy fine and they keep
67:21
just
67:22
sticking you gotta stop you gotta stop
67:24
manifesting and you gotta stop putting
67:26
that in your brain yeah because you’re
67:28
making more of something that is
67:29
actually
67:31
you know for the most part
67:33
we’re pretty fortunate with air travel
67:35
like that you know what they do
67:39
like the plane um
67:41
my first flight ever i was 19 years old
67:44
and my best friend and i were on the
67:46
plane and the plane lost
67:48
air pressure and all the masks and
67:50
everything came off oh my god
67:53
ever since then it’s been really like
67:56
just
67:57
okay let’s move on that’s too hot from
68:00
this topic
68:01
let’s go christy white says i’d be
68:03
scared for sure i hate flying yes
68:05
timelines and money definitely over
68:07
safety in her case
68:09
all right well what i wasn’t going to
68:12
bring this one up but i think it does
68:13
deserve america’s if we’re
68:15
talking about aliyah and her death
68:17
today is the birthday of some gentleman
68:19
named michael jackson
68:21
[Music]
68:22
wow my daughter is in awe
68:25
my daughter loves my daughter loves
68:27
michael jackson i showed her the motown
68:29
25 video where she was like
68:31
five and ever since then she’s been like
68:35
michael jackson everything
68:38
i i have to admit
68:40
fan
68:41
but
68:42
i’m sorry i’m more of a prince fan
68:44
well
68:45
that’s the thing about my apartment that
68:47
you can’t see it’s like from where i am
68:48
you can see all the print stuff on the
68:50
other side is all the michael jackson
68:55
and and for people the only the big
68:58
deciding factor and michael was a great
69:01
performer
69:02
but to me
69:04
he didn’t write the majority of his
69:06
music
69:07
no a lot of his music was
69:10
again and we talked about it last week
69:12
in our um
69:13
in our ask us anything i don’t know if i
69:15
said but i would love to sit down with
69:17
jones
69:18
when he’s ready to talk the truth
69:19
because
69:21
people don’t want people what would
69:24
michael jackson be without quincy jones
69:28
yeah respect for sure respectfully now
69:30
i’m not i’m not i i’m not a desperate
69:32
but
69:33
look man you look at those albums quincy
69:36
was everywhere and michael great
69:38
performer
69:41
is that michael jackson decided to work
69:43
with quincy jones because of his
69:45
involvement in the wiz in 1970 yes
69:48
and that the music that he did there
69:51
is what got michael jackson to wanting
69:53
to work with him in 1979 for off the
69:55
wall
69:57
right and folks if
69:59
these two ladies know their music so if
70:01
you go go hard on them
70:03
good luck
70:05
your wood is wet good luck like
70:08
they they know they’re
70:09
but michael phenomenal um
70:12
he was i i would have to say that what i
70:15
give him credit for
70:17
is
70:20
he
70:21
may have not known how to write the
70:23
music which we know he didn’t write
70:25
music really
70:26
um maybe lyrics or whatever
70:30
he was very vocal about what he wanted
70:32
and pretty precise when he was teaching
70:35
himself new dances
70:37
and i always liked that he reached out
70:39
to
70:40
the tip top
70:41
he got the best of whatever they were
70:44
doing yes yes and if the takeaway that
70:47
you can where you make a big difference
70:49
between prince and him
70:50
for me
70:52
that says a lot and and it’s and and of
70:55
the character traits
70:57
that perhaps
70:59
should be adopted would be always seek
71:01
the best be around the best people yep
71:04
be around the best yeah prince for some
71:06
reason you know a lot of people bring up
71:09
that james brown show and i’ve often had
71:11
time to think about it a little bit
71:13
where he choked you know like kind of
71:15
like got on stage and it was overwhelmed
71:17
by this experience because i was there
71:20
and i’ve now had a lot of time to think
71:21
about and i thought well maybe so i mean
71:24
it just said now that you bring up these
71:26
two
71:27
michael
71:28
knew how to ask for the songs he wanted
71:32
he knew he’d stay in the studio until he
71:34
got that hook
71:35
that he thought worked he had great ears
71:37
yeah he knew what a hit
71:44
um
71:44
that’s so wild to me
71:47
um but surround yourself with the best
71:50
and and also
71:51
when he committed he committed
71:55
it wasn’t halfway
71:57
so maybe in that respect
72:03
but people do and i think it’s fair
72:05
they’re both very different but on a
72:07
certain level the takeaway for me and
72:09
looking at someone like michael jackson
72:11
and it’s a great
72:12
business trait and and le and he was you
72:15
know
72:16
he committed and he always wanted to
72:18
surround himself with the best i mean
72:20
talk about another narcissist they all
72:22
are but nothing spooked him and maybe
72:25
that’s because he was raised in the
72:26
business so he had a sort of sense of
72:29
entitlement like i know who i am michael
72:30
jackson i can get anybody i want yeah
72:32
and for some reason it seemed like
72:34
prince may have doubted that or or
72:36
decided to
72:37
stay out of that lane
72:39
i mean michael learned a lot from barry
72:41
gordy and there’s no doubt about that i
72:44
mean if michael were alive today he’d be
72:46
hanging out with elon musk i mean we
72:48
know that we know who he would pick off
72:51
because he was kind of fascinated with
72:54
other people’s success as well
72:56
and and and there were people in those
72:59
days who were rightful experts
73:02
see the problem is we’ve lost
73:05
actual stars who were
73:08
had quality and who were rightfully
73:10
experts at their job
73:12
and now we’re just left with a bunch of
73:14
influencers on instagram and and and
73:16
believe it or not favorite platform but
73:19
it believe it or not that’s changed what
73:21
we
73:22
what we tolerate what we experienced we
73:24
lost david bowie another master yeah
73:27
that those losses should not be in vain
73:29
because we need to look at it those are
73:31
those were our bars yeah and they’re
73:33
gone well you know you know yeah i just
73:36
want to add quickly
73:38
and you know what what now he’s deceased
73:41
what
73:42
great soul balladeer
73:45
got one of his earlier breaks touring
73:47
with david bowie
73:49
um um billy preston no
73:53
known for his love songs
73:57
luther vandross yes yes
74:00
luther vandross in his early days he
74:03
used to be a backing vocalist yeah he
74:05
was on tour with david
74:07
brand new day for the wiz that michael
74:09
jackson and diana ross sang yeah
74:12
yeah
74:13
but yeah david bowie
74:15
yeah because i like i when we had albums
74:20
i would always read the liner notes
74:23
who’s producing who’s singing background
74:26
how do you think i found out who jill
74:28
was
74:29
lying reading lightning notes
74:32
but i’ll tell you i sit in awe
74:35
with um for example like when i heard
74:37
windows cry and i heard that song for
74:39
the first time on mtv i was like in awe
74:42
because i never heard anything like it i
74:43
still sit that way with one of you
74:45
starting something by michael jackson
74:47
i’m like how did you decide this is
74:49
going to be the first song to start the
74:51
album off because it really
74:53
makes you feel upset yeah you feel it it
74:55
makes a lot of sense and it’s like it
74:57
gets you hyped up to want to listen to
74:59
the rest of it
75:01
well just to give give give props to ms
75:04
jill i was chatting with one of my
75:06
buddies i hadn’t spoke to for a long
75:08
time to because i need okay i go
75:10
i go which one of the shows i do it goes
75:13
i love aisha and jill and like she goes
75:16
yeah and jill was in purple and i go how
75:18
do you know that
75:20
any and he nailed the scene that you
75:21
were into he remembers the whole day so
75:24
funny oh you know i um text you earlier
75:27
this week because i was watching the
75:28
wnba and they were honoring a player
75:31
who’d start got her start in 1999 and
75:34
they only played the female vocals yeah
75:37
which was so funny
75:39
yeah they’re playing that they’re
75:40
playing 99. that’s very nice
75:43
of the female vocals
75:44
it’s like prince got a little play but
75:46
they got all the female vocals girl
75:49
power
75:50
yes kill jones
75:53
these young girls playing on this court
75:55
don’t even realize
75:57
no
75:58
they don’t know they don’t got it all
76:01
right uh
76:03
let’s go on the other side of the
76:04
pendulum unfortunately the recent 66th
76:07
anniversary of the murder of emmett till
76:11
in 2005 i was a presenter at a
76:15
conference um
76:18
on the 50th anniversary of the trial for
76:22
emmett till
76:24
and um
76:26
uh his mother had passed away the year
76:28
before
76:29
and one of the people that i met was
76:31
keith bouchamp
76:33
who is assisting with the film
76:37
till
76:39
um that will star whoopi goldberg and
76:40
they do yes i write about that yes yeah
76:43
and i knew about this
76:45
let’s see he told me about this in 2015
76:48
that they had um been working on it and
76:50
it would be goldberg had committed
76:53
and
76:54
um they just recently cast the young man
76:56
who’s going to be playing emmett till
76:58
um i remember the first time i
77:01
i read about him until i was
77:04
13
77:06
and i saw the pictures and i mean i
77:09
couldn’t sleep for like
77:11
i had nightmares for a week
77:13
after seeing the pictures of what was
77:15
done to him
77:16
and the fact that the woman
77:20
carolyn bryant is still alive
77:23
and you know they’ve been trying to
77:25
prosecute her for the last
77:28
what 17 years
77:30
[Laughter]
77:33
it’s it’s
77:34
something and it’s just it’s one of
77:36
those things where
77:38
you know
77:39
um
77:40
when rosa parks
77:42
um down on the bus that day in december
77:46
december 1st 1955
77:48
she said she was thinking about emmett
77:49
till
77:50
because he had just been murdered that
77:52
august
77:55
wow
77:58
jill you’re on mute for some strange
78:01
reason
78:05
you’re on mute jills for some reason i
78:07
had a i had a um
78:09
ambulance okay i don’t know what is
78:12
going on down the street
78:15
hopefully my neighbors are okay
78:17
yes you know you just never know during
78:19
covet it was so weird to see ambulances
78:22
coming and the lights fly that was
78:24
really a strange ominous feeling
78:26
yeah i mean with emma till it goes back
78:28
to the whole thing for me uh
78:30
you know with the voting rights i mean
78:32
here we are 66 years later
78:35
hasn’t changed we’ve got a bunch of
78:36
karen’s that are
78:38
just replaying you know the same script
78:41
that emmett till’s uh
78:43
uh
78:44
accuser did and uh we’ve been seeing it
78:47
for a while
78:49
um the interesting thing for me is why
78:51
all of these horrible things are
78:55
circulating at the end of a summer cycle
78:59
when we’re getting ready to move into
79:00
fall uh
79:02
there’s some very interesting symbolism
79:04
going on at the moment
79:06
and you know for that i think that is
79:08
something that
79:10
we we can’t seem to rise above out of
79:13
this and and look at things with
79:16
truth and respect and honor
79:19
and here we are still here fighting a
79:21
nation that really doesn’t want black
79:23
people to be
79:25
any better than
79:28
than what they’ve given us
79:30
you know they throw us crumbs and want
79:32
us to pretend it is a sourdough loaf a
79:34
baguette
79:40
brought this story up it made me think
79:42
that
79:43
how in at least 10 at least 10 to 15
79:46
states in the united states
79:49
lynching
79:50
is still legal it totally is yeah yeah
79:53
and they tried to change the meaning of
79:55
it for example um
79:57
this came to bear in south carolina in
80:00
2004 when i was living there
80:02
and um they had arrested some high
80:05
school students for a brawl
80:07
and charged them with lynching
80:10
because they defined lynching as
80:12
um
80:14
two or more people
80:16
engaged in some kind of physical
80:19
altercation and so
80:21
it it really is astonishing how these
80:25
states have come to define lynching
80:28
and so that it doesn’t meet what
80:31
we would consider lynching so that they
80:33
could apply it equally across the board
80:36
but it doesn’t it doesn’t work that way
80:38
and the children that mind you that were
80:41
arrested that year
80:43
in 2004 were black were black kids
80:47
arrested for lynching
80:50
and so it it’s like
80:53
it
80:54
we still have we still have that but we
80:56
also have this
80:58
this history of lynching in the united
81:00
states where
81:03
even in 1963 when they were looking for
81:05
the three civil rights workers they came
81:07
up with like eight bodies out the river
81:09
yeah
81:10
um
81:11
and a lot of those could not have you
81:14
know people who did that couldn’t be
81:16
charged so
81:18
we have a very unequal application in
81:21
this country in terms of how
81:23
we um
81:25
apply this link these lynching laws
81:27
across states but remember we also have
81:29
a congress and a senate that would not
81:33
would not support the emmett if they
81:35
wouldn’t sometimes have them why did
81:36
everybody think that the voting rights
81:38
thing is going to pass i mean let’s just
81:40
be honest i think that you know
81:43
there’s some home truths that have come
81:45
come to uh fruition about everything
81:49
you know uh about all of these countries
81:52
all of their dirty deeds look in canada
81:54
you have the the whole thing i mean good
81:56
god they they weren’t
81:58
an orphanage they weren’t any of that
82:00
they were murderers they just took kids
82:02
in and killed them no different
82:05
than auschwitz or dachau
82:08
right because some of them were so young
82:10
that they didn’t even get to live their
82:12
lives
82:13
that i mean to the po you know give me a
82:15
break
82:16
and everybody i don’t know if people
82:20
have honor for their family or they
82:21
don’t but i believe every child’s name
82:25
that went missing if family members can
82:27
remember if there’s dna that can connect
82:29
them
82:30
i think that the names of everybody who
82:32
worked in those places should be made
82:34
public
82:35
i think that everybody should be looked
82:37
at scrutinized just just even if it’s
82:40
the side eye from the crowd
82:42
i i know it’s terrible but
82:45
it’ll never bring them back but they’ve
82:47
all done their dirty deeds all of them
82:50
and now they’re standing here like oh
82:52
you know oh my god what are we
82:54
you know
82:55
that’s a terrible thing to do it’s like
82:57
we’re in a freaking monty python movie a
83:00
sad one i mean where’s the comedy yeah
83:03
there is
83:04
here too because you think about all the
83:06
mental quote unquote they’re looking out
83:08
they’re looking now oh they’re looking
83:10
and
83:10
they put black kids in those things in
83:13
those those institutions i know and and
83:16
a lot of them were being raped abused
83:19
and and
83:20
sterilized for no reason well that’s the
83:23
interesting thing about my grandmother
83:25
my great
83:27
great grandmother
83:29
because christy
83:30
was talking to me about it but it’s true
83:33
we cannot find out
83:35
when she had my mom’s dad where
83:39
what his birth certificate is was
83:41
non-existent different day we don’t know
83:43
who his dad is forget anything her dad
83:46
he suddenly got papers but it’s you know
83:49
it’s a mess all i just keep thinking is
83:52
we’re in a major shift because all these
83:55
things don’t just rise to the surface it
83:57
is like you know we’ve been dragging a
84:00
river and all the bodies are now coming
84:02
up
84:02
it really feels like all these things
84:05
are being resurrected i mean i think
84:08
this is the second coming for america to
84:10
figure out who it really wants to be
84:12
it’s either going to go straight to hell
84:14
or it’s going to get together
84:16
if i were a betting person i’d say it’s
84:18
going straight to hell
84:19
but you know that that’s just from what
84:22
i see we have a lot of work to do to get
84:24
rid of people what scares me about when
84:26
they don’t implement those laws because
84:28
we’re putting a lot of faith into an
84:31
abstract group of people called gen z
84:34
and i will give it to you they have
84:36
never
84:37
you know they go through their things
84:38
with the shootings and the this and and
84:40
i understand and it’s terrible
84:42
but the minute capitalism gets in the
84:45
way where a person gets a choice to be
84:47
rich or poor
84:50
gen z ain’t going to pull through either
84:51
for everybody they’ll sell everybody
84:53
else out too and maybe be even more
84:55
brutal about it
84:57
and i don’t see much empathy in that
84:59
group i see a lot of i see a lot of give
85:02
me a label give me a name this is what i
85:04
am this is who i am and i don’t see that
85:06
as being a sustainable way to live
85:08
either in a society
85:10
yeah and let’s be clear the emmett till
85:13
anti-lynching bill
85:15
the person who voted against it
85:17
was rand paul
85:19
yeah but there’s a reason he keeps
85:21
getting voted in
85:22
the issue is
85:24
people please stop
85:26
trying to be friends with these people
85:28
if you’re in kentucky and you’re poor
85:30
you’re poor if you shun their family
85:32
shun their kids
85:33
don’t don’t use them you know the reason
85:35
it did not pass you know in japan they
85:38
have really weird things about honor and
85:40
family and you know even somebody who’s
85:42
a criminal can ruin the whole family on
85:44
a course that’s
85:46
you can’t even return from you know what
85:49
i’m saying i think we need to have a
85:50
little bit of honor somewhere here
85:53
i i don’t see you know
85:55
i’m looking at a child online who’s been
85:58
needing a heart transplant so he’s only
86:01
like five or six
86:02
and then i see some old dusty uh
86:05
taxidermy
86:07
the prince uh
86:09
the queen’s husband i mean let’s be
86:11
honest they put fresh new hearts in
86:13
these old geezers
86:15
that’s like
86:16
i’ve had two siblings on
86:18
donorless and it is
86:20
that’s like wearing a mop ridden dress
86:24
that’s like you know they gave hearts to
86:26
the rockefeller how many did david
86:28
rockefeller have or whatever whichever
86:30
one it was
86:31
oh my god how many hours jay’s had a few
86:33
where are they getting them where’s the
86:35
list oh because they’re rich and there’s
86:38
children i’m sorry there’s just you know
86:40
so they can be rule and have more hate
86:43
in the world
86:44
we god only knows how they’re getting
86:46
them
86:47
yeah come on people we and we as the
86:50
lower classes have been oh okay well
86:52
they’re rich what are we going to do
86:55
yeah it’s too much we’re all being asked
86:57
to be something
87:00
on all levels here we’re all being
87:02
challenged by our abstract beliefs
87:06
and our fundamental beliefs and then
87:08
what our realities are
87:10
this is a shift for everybody on every
87:12
level it’s not just they’re right we’re
87:14
wrong this is their wrong whatever
87:16
there’s a shift in abstract beliefs here
87:20
because abstract beliefs
87:22
is what got us here
87:24
god did this god did that this one that
87:27
one you know i’m sorry i could never
87:29
step into a church with some of the
87:31
hateful things that most of those guys
87:33
do
87:34
and think that they’re men of you know
87:35
god but then they found out this one was
87:37
a peter denied so and so this one did
87:40
that you know stop it
87:42
just stop
87:44
these people
87:45
there’s a i’m going to send you guys
87:47
this there is a funny thing about jim
87:50
baker it’s on youtube
87:52
and somebody edited all of his best
87:55
stuff the christian
87:56
jim baker i seen it about god talking to
87:59
him when he was in prison
88:01
when he was with his wife tammy it is
88:04
the best of and it is scary to think and
88:08
then they’re hawking food to give people
88:10
to prepare for the return of jesus that
88:13
people who are on pa you know people are
88:15
sending money for this and it’s let me
88:17
tell you what the food is it’s in a bag
88:19
it’s dehydrated food there are old
88:21
people ordering this crap
88:24
it’s so frightening to think america has
88:27
not really challenged it it seems to
88:29
think that freedom is letting people
88:31
just do whatever they want and then
88:32
determine who should be charged and who
88:35
shouldn’t be but i feel that people
88:37
should actually start going after the
88:39
fcc for allowing fox to stay on for
88:42
allowing these shows to stay on i think
88:44
it’s wrong they get mad if i take my
88:46
shirt off and show my boobs there’s
88:48
something wrong with a nation that
88:50
freaks out more over a nude body than it
88:52
does with half of the crap that they’ve
88:54
been saying for the last four
88:56
years
88:57
there’s a problem and it’s called white
89:00
men
89:01
yeah i mean
89:03
you have the other part of the emmett so
89:05
murder is that the two white men that
89:07
saw him were acquitted
89:09
okay by other by 12 other white men
89:13
and um
89:15
when you read the transcripts and and in
89:18
an interview with one of the the jury
89:20
foreman he’s like yeah we decided in 10
89:23
minutes the first 10 minutes that um
89:26
they were acquitted we just took an
89:28
extra 10 minutes to have a soda break
89:32
yeah i mean that was
89:35
not yeah i mean
89:40
and the other side of it is that we’re
89:42
coming upon some other anniversaries in
89:44
september of the church bombing in in
89:47
birmingham and you realize too that a
89:50
lot of children
89:51
sacrificed their their lives were
89:54
sacrificed
89:55
during
89:56
the civil rights movement
89:58
it was um i always when i always did my
90:02
research and presentations on i always
90:03
talked about how it really was a
90:06
movement for children and you’re talking
90:07
about children as young as 8 up through
90:10
20
90:12
and
90:12
um
90:14
the impact that people made because i
90:16
went to fisk university where john lewis
90:18
went and john lewis was one of his
90:21
things that he’s known for around
90:22
nashville was trying to integrate
90:25
lunch counters there in 1960
90:28
and he was very young he was like 19 at
90:31
the time
90:32
and i think that
90:35
um
90:36
what we have now we we don’t have a
90:39
movement where you have you have young
90:41
people getting involved but only to a
90:44
point
90:45
not willing to lay down their lives i
90:48
think no i i disagree i think the kids
90:50
during
90:52
during george floyd really were out
90:54
there laying down their lives i do
90:56
believe that there were children of all
90:58
races involved in that
91:00
but
91:02
i wonder if the fear of dying was the
91:04
same the fear of dying they’re in gangs
91:08
the hell are you they they don’t really
91:11
every kid out here is ordering guns that
91:13
you put together from a model
91:15
printer
91:16
no no no no it’s called laziness it’s
91:18
called disrespect it’s called not having
91:20
any connection to these deaths they play
91:22
they don’t see that they don’t care
91:24
about emmett till they only care about
91:26
it when they want to make a talking
91:27
point i’m gonna cut it here because we
91:29
can go on a while and i’m just gonna
91:31
that’ll that’ll you know i just want to
91:33
catch up with comments christy was
91:35
saying about ha ha me and my sister
91:37
fight all the time who was bitter she’s
91:39
a michael fan and i’m a prince fan
91:41
uh black beauty’s saying yes and just
91:43
like in 65 americans are mostly
91:45
irritated with our people for our desire
91:47
for equality and here we are in summer
91:49
2020 and america still has their dated
91:52
us
91:53
real django it’s a frequent
91:54
merry-go-round black beauty this culture
91:56
refuses to learn from past mistakes
91:59
real django says and then acts like
92:01
we’re so great when i’m in fact
92:03
america’s america’s pathetic
92:06
and he says and don’t get me on the
92:08
government it’s a joke
92:10
real django the law is a joke and real
92:12
dingo says exactly miss joan this is
92:15
jones all right
92:18
last
92:18
one last comment on this for me it’s
92:21
been it it is a really weird
92:23
understanding of this because i grew up
92:25
in a city that
92:27
was at one point in cities that had a
92:30
population of 125 000 or more was like
92:33
the third most deadliest city for gun
92:36
violence but it also
92:38
in 1970 had the black panther trials and
92:41
so growing up in those two shadows the
92:44
fear of
92:45
dying
92:46
by a random bullet
92:49
scared me more than probably dying as a
92:52
result of um any kind of protest
92:56
interesting
92:57
interesting all right
92:59
let’s get to our last as always end off
93:01
our conversations this episode’s
93:02
cockroach christy kirsty noem
93:06
you brought this person up jill
93:09
how about well as we know the bikers uh
93:12
who were there for sturgis
93:14
um they were there what three weeks four
93:16
weeks
93:17
uh three week festival i don’t know they
93:21
were unmasked
93:22
now they’re showing numbers that are one
93:24
thousand five hundred and fifty percent
93:28
spike beyond
93:30
um
93:32
their hospitals are full
93:35
this woman
93:36
in my opinion is another failure of the
93:38
american government the united states
93:40
government failed
93:42
by
93:42
not removing her there should be
93:44
something in place that she should have
93:46
been physically removed from her
93:48
location and her office because
93:51
you cannot do what she just did and i
93:53
think that she should be held
93:54
accountable and liable and she should be
93:57
people should you know there’s as many
94:00
lawyers that there are in america
94:01
somebody needs it will find a way to sue
94:03
her personally
94:04
she should be held accountable role that
94:06
she have in all this jill she’s a girl
94:07
she she’s a governor and she does not
94:10
believe in masking and she’s catering
94:13
and pandering to the trump party so i
94:15
hope all those people who drove in and
94:18
now there are people who are not even
94:20
from sturgis
94:21
are now out there spreading delta
94:23
variant and as i told you all today
94:25
they’ve recognized another layer to
94:28
another strength
94:29
variant from the delta in the uk that
94:33
has been ravaging their communities
94:35
again and it is stronger than the delta
94:37
it is an offshoot of it and that’s going
94:40
to be here if it’s not already here now
94:42
because by the time when they announce
94:44
it you know there’s something called
94:45
airplanes remember aisha right
94:47
and right that’s what happens it’s most
94:49
likely here so someone like christie
94:51
noam and these are the people who are in
94:55
my mind the real war that was going on
94:58
in america for the last couple of years
94:59
and they should be held for war crimes
95:02
and i believe that our allies in the
95:04
next round if they ask us to get
95:05
involved in anything else we should be
95:08
um held accountable to the hague as well
95:10
as everybody else if we go into any more
95:12
treaties and they should make us
95:14
accountable as well
95:16
they need to because remember trump
95:18
pardoned
95:19
trump hardened the people that we have
95:21
had that stupid idiot who killed that
95:24
whole village um he got away with it one
95:27
of the soldiers so we have a problem and
95:29
like i said there’s going to be a shift
95:31
this is just not america’s time saturn
95:34
is staying in in
95:35
i know everybody i’m in astrology and
95:37
stuff saturn is a is a time of reckoning
95:40
and when it sits in a chart in this
95:42
country’s chart where it’s sitting it
95:44
sits for 12 years
95:45
so
95:46
it’s going to be bad and neptune hasn’t
95:49
been looking too good either and neither
95:50
has pluto so there’s a lot that america
95:54
has to answer for and when saturn is
95:56
where it is it’s called karma it is a
95:59
karmic
96:00
you know when people have their saturn
96:02
returns and it’s sitting in your house
96:03
and things like that
96:05
um
96:06
some people
96:08
don’t survive their saturn returns um
96:11
you have one early in your life when
96:12
you’re like 27 or in your late 20s
96:16
26 20 whatever
96:18
and these are just things that happen
96:20
it’s
96:21
and they can be very quite challenging
96:23
things change very dramatically for you
96:26
and then it comes back around again
96:29
and generally around 56 57 i’m not
96:33
trying to spook anybody it’s just it is
96:35
very interesting where the planetary
96:36
alignments are with america and now it’s
96:39
in aquarius as well there’s a planet
96:42
that shifted into aquarius
96:44
saturn has been going back and forth
96:46
between aquarius and capricorn and if we
96:49
know anything about any capricorn
96:51
friends out there what’s the one thing
96:52
about a capricorn friend it’s about
96:54
money it’s about institutions aquarius
96:57
if you have any aquarius friends let’s
96:58
put into this context they’re about
97:00
expansion let’s move let’s progress
97:03
let’s do this so there is a real
97:06
dichotomy of polarity that’s going back
97:08
and forth
97:09
with the shift and that’s why this is
97:11
the shift
97:13
i just say go after her with the same
97:15
urgency that they went after andrew
97:17
cuomo well they possibly can because if
97:20
we stay in aquarius
97:22
that means somebody and people will want
97:24
to change existing laws like
97:27
change it’s overhaul this lasts yeah
97:30
it’s called an overhaul i mean she just
97:32
people
97:35
you know
97:36
making it illegal to mandate masks in
97:39
the schools in
97:41
state agencies i i mean she just needs
97:44
to go she’s killing her people and south
97:46
dakota only has but so many people in it
97:50
and she is killing them she wants to get
97:52
rid of the natives but they outsmarted
97:54
her they’re most of their navajo are all
97:57
vaccinated yeah
98:00
that’s what she’s doing all right and i
98:02
wouldn’t be surprised if we found out
98:03
that those people were driving through
98:06
or there’s certain um low end tactics
98:09
that have been going on
98:11
i don’t know the native community well
98:13
enough to know but i believe that that’s
98:15
what she was doing you know racists do
98:17
all sorts of stuff but i’d probably see
98:19
the majority of those people that were
98:20
at the sturgis are going back down south
98:23
where it is oh absolutely yeah horribly
98:26
horribly dire straits when it comes i
98:29
know
98:30
i know well
98:32
that’s a wrap folks i i just want to
98:34
take one one second we talk a lot about
98:37
really bad people
98:39
i just want to highlight one person
98:42
who has a book
98:43
and who i think that
98:45
people if you don’t know who she is you
98:47
might want to go read about her
98:50
her name is michaela de prince and she’s
98:53
an african-american she’s an african
98:56
ballerina and her story
99:01
if you want inspiration uh look her up
99:04
michaela de prince she
99:06
came from africa totally rejected
99:09
in her life was very hard if i say the
99:12
least
99:13
difficult beyond
99:15
what this child endured she had vitiligo
99:18
just like
99:19
michael jackson
99:20
uh both of her parents were killed by
99:23
terrorists in in the sudan or wherever
99:26
she’s from
99:27
and a couple from new jersey adopted her
99:29
where
99:30
in the list at the orphanage she
99:32
mentioned that on a list between 1 and
99:35
27 at the orphanage she was number 27.
99:39
the number one spot got the most food so
99:42
imagine where she was they used to call
99:43
her the devil’s child
99:45
because of the vitiligo
99:48
and all these things happened to her
99:50
uh horrific things i won’t go into
99:53
but a white
99:56
white woman and her husband adopted
99:59
her
100:00
and with nine other kids that they got
100:02
from africa
100:04
and the story is so
100:06
incredibly beautiful she talks about
100:08
being in africa and a magazine flew in
100:11
the wind and she saw it on a fence and
100:13
it was a ballerina
100:15
she’d never seen anything like that and
100:16
made her happy
100:18
so she went to
100:20
you know when she met this woman
100:22
she couldn’t understand her but she’s
100:24
the woman said to her what do you want
100:26
to do she
100:28
pulled this little picture she’d been
100:29
saving a ballerina and that woman and
100:31
her husband put her and she became she
100:34
was at the dance theater of holler and
100:36
she really did become a ballerina and
100:38
she also is one of the lead dancers for
100:41
beyonce
100:42
um her story
100:44
is phenomenal
100:46
it is inspiring it’s courageous
100:49
the things this person endured
100:52
is we need to hear more about these
100:55
people
100:56
because
100:58
what an uplifting human being
101:01
from so much pain
101:02
so i’d like to also even though we may
101:05
show a cockroach here and there i’d like
101:07
to really celebrate those that really
101:11
just change the balance and inspire this
101:14
child i’m sorry today i just went this
101:15
michaela de prince
101:17
just an incredible human being
101:20
and
101:21
and if we really want to talk about any
101:23
god or lord or universe oh he’s been
101:26
with her the whole way
101:28
he oh the whole way maybe not the way we
101:31
think bad things or
101:33
he
101:34
there’s an angel she has angels and
101:37
she’s an angel when you look at her you
101:39
you feel them present
101:41
so her story is very important
101:43
thank you jill for ending off our
101:45
conversation on that but we have to
101:48
give a good homage to another lady uh
101:51
unfortunately folks we are losing an
101:54
unseen member of our team
101:56
on the 31st of this month there has been
101:59
a lady behind the scenes named maddie
102:02
who was an intern at a college in the
102:04
greater toronto area where i live and
102:07
she has been doing a lot of work
102:09
to help what you see well not well some
102:12
of it live and if you watch the replay
102:15
she does an incredible amount of work on
102:17
on that with editing audio video wise
102:20
the uh the little clip that you see the
102:23
opening you see the beginning with the
102:24
shinjill she did that the clip in the
102:26
middle she did that
102:28
and uh we’re going to be losing she’s
102:30
going back to school next week
102:33
thank you maddie for everything
102:35
what a beautiful another beautiful
102:37
person yeah making a difference she’s
102:39
one of the gen z yes and your daughter
102:42
that i think are
102:43
awesome so we are going to really really
102:46
miss you and we we are there for you
102:48
anyway we can support and as you know
102:50
maddie i’m doing whatever i can to have
102:52
you still involved with us
102:54
because you took a load of stuff out of
102:56
my backpack when i could do some other
102:59
things i know that aisha and jill
103:01
appreciate you very much so we just want
103:03
to wish you the the best in your future
103:05
endeavors and we’re here to support you
103:08
whatever way we can and
103:11
and and chrissy’s saying she has done a
103:13
great job she has she really has
103:16
absolutely and i tell you that i i’ll
103:19
say it probably every time i i on a call
103:22
with her to yourself she always is
103:24
smiling
103:26
and she always wants to do stuff and uh
103:29
we so we think the world oh and look
103:32
who’s here
103:33
hi maddie
103:34
[Laughter]
103:37
i will miss you too so uh
103:40
it’s uh we hope
103:42
we’ll we’re gonna i’m gonna find a way
103:43
gotta find a way gotta find a way real
103:46
django saying yeah yep yep so yeah ma
103:49
and this is good because then mandy
103:50
maddie just to share you with the folks
103:52
she was liking working full-time
103:54
plus doing audio and video editing for
103:56
this show
103:57
at the same time
103:59
yeah
104:00
julian you
104:02
she was amazing yes
104:04
yes so
104:05
you know and
104:07
saying we miss you so
104:09
uh
104:10
definitely we just want to end off with
104:12
that and uh we’ll find we’re gonna find
104:14
a way some way somebody we want we want
104:16
to get you back and we are here again to
104:19
help you any way we can so
104:21
with that note
104:23
we end up as we usually do
104:25
ladies
104:27
how can we get a hold of jill jones
104:31
jill d jones at twitter and how do we
104:34
get a hold of aisha k staggers
104:37
ayesha staggers at twitter and next time
104:41
we have our um
104:42
ask us anything somebody remind me to
104:44
tell you the story about melissa
104:47
okay
104:48
all right good stuff
104:50
and i am dr vibe host and producer of
104:52
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104:54
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104:56
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105:03
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105:05
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105:07
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105:11
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105:17
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105:19
and drink initiative it’s a multimedia
105:20
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105:22
that showcases blocks in food wine and
105:26
drink
105:27
and i love that also too
105:29
like to thank everyone who helped make
105:30
this an epic conversation like hopefully
105:32
i can give a good roll call black beauty
105:35
gene blue
105:37
reigns uh
105:39
green eyed
105:41
who else the inspired thought
105:44
christy white
105:46
uh we’ve also got the inspire the
105:48
inspired thought
105:50
t stevens
105:52
and of course
105:53
maddie
105:56
always i end off my conversations like
105:58
this live your life as a dream if you
105:59
can dream it you can make it sometimes
106:01
you have to get smaller to get stronger
106:03
block assumptions the name bigger aim
106:05
better aim higher aim wider love faith
106:08
and respect and remember to give
106:09
yourself grace god bless peace well keep
106:12
the faith
106:13
and
106:14
what good take care everybody and again
106:16
thanks for watching live and thanks for
106:18
watching on the replay and listening to
106:19
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Taliban tortured and killed Abdul Ali Mazari leader of the Hazara people. Civil war in Afghanistan (1996–2001): The forces of the Islamic State retreated to northern Afghanistan. Civil war in Afghanistan (1996–2001): The Taliban conquered Kabul and declared the establishment of the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

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Afghanistan Interesting Facts
  • Afghanistan is home to the oldest oil paintings in the world.
  • There have been 26 different flags in the history of Afghanistan.
  • Afghanistan has been independent since 1919.
  • During the war in Afghanistan from 1980 to 1990, citizens were not registered.

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Afghanistan is the 37th most populous country in the world

With a population of almost 40-million, it is the 37th most populous country in the world. Kabul is the capital and largest city in Afghanistan. Around 10% of the population lives in Kabul. The official languages of Afghanistan are Pashto and Dari.

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Afghanistan was an important crossroads, dominated by other civilizations throughout its history. By 522 BC Darius the Great extended the boundaries of the Persian Empire into most of the region that is now Afghanistan. By 330 BC.

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Address: 6946 Schoen Cove, Sipesshire, MO 55944

Phone: +3763365785260

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